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Christians are having a Trump sized reckoning

Across the country, Evangelicals are facing a moral dilemma — is supporting the government’s immigration enforcement actions in line with their religious beliefs?

The answer shows a rift in Evangelical communities, as government officials like Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth use scripture to justify war and deportation. To parse through these questions of God and country, Brittany is joined by NPR Religion correspondent Jason DeRose, and Reverend Dr. Gabriel Salguero, president and founder of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition and pastor of the Gathering Place in Orlando, Florida.

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The psychology behind why you dread small talk

Do you avoid small talk in the office, or with your neighbor in the elevator? If so, you might want to give it a chance. According to a study just published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, even when participants were primed that a conversation would be boring, it turned out to be more interesting than they anticipated. Today on the show, we get into that, plus why scientists gave lobsters painkillers, and a clue about the formation of the Grand Canyon. 

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New Music Friday: The best albums out April 17

Honey Dijon. Yaya Bey. Shadowy pop from Sofia Isella. Guest host Hazel Cills chats with Nastia Voynovskaya from KQED in San Francisco about their favorite albums out Friday, April 17. Plus, a handful of NPR Music writers and critics offer personal picks in our lightning round.

The Starting 5

(00:00) Introduction & Nine Inch Nails & Boys Noize, ‘Nine Inch Noize’
(02:47) Honey Dijon, ‘The Nightlife’
(09:05) Jessie Ware, ‘Superbloom’
(16:22) Sofia Isella, ‘Something is a shell’ EP
(22:43) Eaves Wilder, ‘Little Miss Sunshine’
(28:56) Yaya Bey, ‘Fidelity’

(34:33) The Lightning Round

– Kathryn Mohr, ‘Carve’
– Protoje, ‘The Art of Acceptance’
– PPJ, ‘Joker’ EP
– Iceland Symphony Orchestra, ‘Arvo Pärt: Complete Symphonies’
– Adrian Younge, ‘Younge’

Sample the albums via our New Music Friday playlist and see our Long List of notable releases on NPR.org

Credits:
Host: Hazel Cills
Guest: Nastia Voynovskaya, KQED
Audio Producers: Noah Caldwell, Alina Edwards
Digital Producer: Dora Levite
Editors: Otis Hart, Elle Mannion
Executive Producer: Suraya Mohamed
Special thanks to Tom Huizenga and Rodney Carmichael

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