Rhode Island Education Commissioner Deborah Gist is about to step down to become superintendent of Tulsa Public Schools. Before she leaves, she reflected on her tenure with Rhode Island Public Radio’s education reporter Elisabeth Harrison. Gist says she made the right move delaying test scores for teacher evaluations. But she was disappointed lawmakers voted to delay using test scores for a high school diploma.

Part 1: Gist discusses her move to Tulsa, Oklahoma, the persistent achievement gap, and the charter school movement in the state.Part 2: Gist talks about backing down on high stakes testing, teacher evaluations, and the upcoming PARCC assessment.

Elisabeth Harrison's journalism background includes everything from behind-the-scenes work with the CBS Evening News to freelance documentary production. She joined the WRNI team in 2007 as a Morning Edition...